Religion


I consider myself an atheist Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists. , I don't believe in the existence of any deity. is a supernatural being considered divine or sacred. The Oxford Dictionary of English defines deity as "a god or goddess (in a polytheistic religion)", or anything revered as divine. C. Scott Littleton defines a deity as "a being with powers greater than those of ordinary humans, but who interacts with humans, positively or negatively, in ways that carry humans to new levels of consciousness, beyond the grounded preoccupations of ordinary life". A male deity is a god, while a female deity is a goddess.

At this moment, the world stands of the verge of annihilation. We cheer the on coming disaster is a serious disruption, occurring over a relatively short time, of the functioning of a community or a society involving widespread human, material, economic or environmental loss and impacts, which exceeds the ability of the affected community or society to cope using its own resources. as we do our favorite athletic team. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel, we just don't realize it's an oncoming freight train. We sit each day and hope someone else will cleanup the mess we've allowed to happen.

If there is a deity of some sort, it owes us an apology. For no reason what so ever, could it explain away the pain and suffering of diseased and broken children, the weak, the timid or the helpless being preyed upon. If this is the best it can do for a grand plan, we gotta talk....

If I take a lamp and shine it toward the wall, a bright spot will appear on the wall. The lamp is our search for truth, for understanding. Too often we assume that the light on the wall is God, but the light is not the goal of the search, it is the result of the search. The more intense the search, the brighter the light on the wall. The brighter the light on the wall, the greater the sense of revelation upon seeing it. Similarly, someone who does not search, who does not bring a lantern with him, sees nothing. What we perceive as God is the by-product of our search for God. It may simply be an appreciation of the light, pure and unblemished, not understanding that it comes from us. Sometimes, we stand in front of the light and assume we are the center of the universe – God looks astonishingly like we do! – or we turn to look at our shadow and assume all is darkness. If we allow ourselves to get in the way, we defeat the purpose – which is use the light of our search to illuminate the wall in all its beauty and all its flaws, and in so doing, better understand the world around us.


What is Religion and why is it important to us???

From a young man on I was told you never spoke of politics or religion at the dinner table. Why? Because both are so divisive and personal. Each person has their own belief structure. God, heaven, hell, Jesus, Buddha, Alla, Mohammad and so on... Democrats and Republicans...

Religion may be defined as a cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements. However, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion. is the most harmful superstition that has flourished on earth. Don't do that or "GOD" will strike you down dead. It would take to long to go through all the "GODS" that have been worshiped at one time or another. So let's just hit on a few of the more well known "GODS".

So during the period of Judaism (9th - 5th century BCE), a Rabbi arose going by the name of Jesus (circa 4 BC – circa AD 30 / 33), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus Christ, was a first-century Jewish preacher and religious leader.[12] He is the central figure of Christianity. Most Christians believe he is the incarnation of God the Son and the awaited Messiah (Christ) prophesied in the Old Testament.

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed historically, although the quest for the historical Jesus has produced little agreement on the historical reliability of the Gospels and on how closely the Jesus portrayed in the Bible reflects the historical Jesus. Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was baptized by John the Baptist and subsequently began his own ministry, preaching his message orally and often being referred to as "rabbi". Jesus debated with fellow Jews on how to best follow God, engaged in healing, taught in parables and gathered followers. Remember, Jesus Cleansing of the Temple? narrative tells of Jesus expelling the merchants and the money changers from the Temple, and occurs in all four canonical gospels of the New Testament. In this account, Jesus and his disciples travel to Jerusalem for Passover, where Jesus expels the merchants and money changers from the Temple, accusing them of turning the Temple into "a den of thieves" through their commercial activities. In the Gospel of John Jesus refers to the Temple as "my Father's house", thus, making a claim to being the Son of God. Now if I was a religious person, I might think of the church as my Fathers house. If god was the giver of all things, then god is our father for giving us life. How many times have you heard people call each other brother or sister, thus simpling a common Father, GOD.

The narrative occurs near the end of the Synoptic Gospels (at Matthew 21:12–17, Mark 11:15–19, and Luke 19:45–48) and near the start in the Gospel of John (at John 2:13–16). Some scholars believe that these refer to two separate incidents, given that the Gospel of John also includes more than one Passover.

He was arrested and tried by the Jewish authorities, for activities against the establishment. The ruling bankers of the time. He was turned over to the Roman government, and was subsequently crucified on the order of Pontius Pilate, the Roman prefect. After his death, his followers believed he rose from the dead, and the community they formed eventually became the early Church some 320 years after his death. Between the time Jesus died and the church began was approximately 320 years. In that time frame, the stories of Jesus were told word of mouth.

Sienna copper tablets translation of the life and times of Jesus. These tablets are 730 years older than the dead sea scrolls. Now the entire world is working overtime to prove they are forgeries. When people work that hard at something, causes me to take a second look. This is not the first time in history the Church has been called into question over the life of Jesus.

I believe my Grandson Trent said it best:

So it seems like Jesus was really just a cool dude and the same establishments that he accused of extortion eventually made him their idol in an attempt to pander to the good hearted and the poor...again.

Not for a single instance do I believe that Jesus was the incarnation of any deity. Nor do I subscribe to the "Christian" church surrounding the life of Jesus. Why??? OK, what did Jesus teach??? Hummmmmmmmmmmmm???

May I start with Christmas: In ancient Rome, the celebration of Saturnalia Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honour of the god Saturn, held on 17 December of the Julian calendar and later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn, in the Roman Forum, and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival atmosphere that overturned Roman social norms: gambling was permitted, and masters provided table service for their slaves.[1] A common custom was the election of a "King of the Saturnalia", who would give orders to people and preside over the merrymaking. The gifts exchanged were usually gag gifts or small figurines made of wax or pottery known as sigillaria. The poet Catullus called it "the best of days". took place in December. There was unbridled, music, food, dancing, giving thanks and sex, sex, sex, sex, and then just to top everything off, they had more sex. Of course then the Christians got a hold of it and took all the fun out of it. Damn them Christians..

Inanna is an ancient Mesopotamian goddess associated with love, beauty, sex, desire, fertility, war, justice, and political power. She was originally worshiped in Sumer and was later worshiped by the Akkadians, Babylonians, and Assyrians under the name Ishtar. She was known as the "Queen of Heaven" and was the patron goddess of the Eanna temple at the city of Uruk, which was her main cult center. She was associated with the planet Venus and her most prominent symbols included the lion and the eight-pointed star. Her husband was the god Dumuzid (later known as Tammuz) and her sukkal, or personal attendant, was the goddess Ninshubur (who later became the male deity Papsukkal). or Ishtar was the goddess of Divine justice.


Let me put forth this hypothesis:

Between God and Satan there is said to have been a great battle fought and Satan was cast out of heaven. Now the question arises as to what really happened between God and Satan? When God created man, he gave man free will. In other words, man could chose his own destiny, path to follow and good Vs. evil. Now when the angles were created, God made them slaves by withholding their free will. So in effect, Satan was fighting for the freedom of the angles and since you have free will, you also are fighting to free the angles.

So effectively, Satan was the good God and the thing we simply refer to God is the evil one. Hummmmmmmmmmmmm?? Now just look around, this evil being, if it exists, enjoys watching children die of curable diseases. Gets its jollies by watching children in a school bus be incinerated. Wiles away the hours watching human beings die of thirst and starvation due to its influence. Without any compunction at all, is absolutely thrilled by the horror, pain, misery and suffering it causes.

That is if you believe in the invisible guy in the sky.


Why would anyone create such a far reaching lie!!

Fearless Leader

Let's review:

You tell us your a kind and loving god. You are the only god. We are to honor you as our only god. If we don't love you, you will sentence us for eternity in a place where we will suffer the most agonizing pain.

Then there's the Dark Ages is a historical periodization traditionally referring to the Middle Ages, that asserts that a demographic, cultural, and economic deterioration occurred in Western Europe following the decline of the Roman Empire.

The term employs traditional light-versus-darkness imagery to contrast the era's "darkness" (lack of records) with earlier and later periods of "light" (abundance of records).[3] The concept of a "Dark Age" originated in the 1330s with the Italian scholar Petrarch, who regarded the post-Roman centuries as "dark" compared to the light of classical antiquity.[3][4] The phrase "Dark Age" itself derives from the Latin saeculum obscurum, originally applied by Caesar Baronius in 1602 to a tumultuous period in the 10th and 11th centuries.[5] The concept thus came to characterize the entire Middle Ages as a time of intellectual darkness between the fall of Rome and the Renaissance; this became especially popular during the 18th-century Age of Enlightenment.
, around 700 years of religious rule where all science and technology were band. We would be exploring the galaxy by now. Star Trek would most possibly be a reality; or the Klingon Empire would have wiped us out by now. Who knows??

Now stop and think about the The Inquisition was a group of institutions within the judicial system of the Roman Catholic Church whose aim is to combat heresy. It started in 12th-century France to combat the spread of religious sectarianism, in particular the Cathars and the Waldensians. Among the other groups which were investigated later were the Spiritual Franciscans, the Hussites (followers of Jan Hus) and Beguines. Beginning in the 1250s, inquisitors were generally chosen from members of the Dominican Order, to replace the earlier practice of using local clergy as judges. The term Medieval Inquisition covers these courts up through the 14th century. These courts murdered thousands of innocent Men, women and children to prevent the spread of non-Christian thought. Rape, pillage, plunder, destroy all in the name of purity of the church!!!


I was required by my parents to attend Wingate University Founded in 1896 - the original campus is located in Wingate, North Carolina, and two additional campuses are located in the Ballantyne neighborhood of Charlotte and in Hendersonville, North Carolina. The university serves more than 3,600 students, including undergraduate and graduate students. (the only school that would accept me and my Father thought I needed discipline, he was right), a Southern Baptist convention supported and operated University. In addition to getting a fine education, they required that you pass, for lack of a better name, a religion course. I failed this course many times due to compulsion of asking questions the Minsters did not wish to answer. When pushed the Minsters would simple banish me from class. I would have to accept a Withdrawn, Failing. After this, I was required to take the course in summer school to graduate. The school brought in a theologian or an individual who teaches at the Baptist seminary. Now this gentleman did not shy away from any question and I passed the course with an 'A'. This started my great interest in religion and why most Christians do not want their religion questioned.

It does not hold up under the light of true.


Do you know why the bible, that most individuals consider the standard bible, is named the King James Version?

This is the opening text from Wikipedia The King James Version (KJV), commonly known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England begun in 1604 and completed in 1611. First printed by the King's Printer Robert Barker, this was the third translation into English to be approved by the English Church authorities. The first was the Great Bible The Great Bible of 1539 was the first authorized edition of the Bible in English, authorized by King Henry VIII of England to be read aloud in the church services of the Church of England. The Great Bible was prepared by Myles Coverdale, working under commission of Thomas, Lord Cromwell, Secretary to Henry VIII and Vicar General. In 1538, Cromwell directed the clergy to provide "one book of the bible of the largest volume in English, and the same set up in some convenient place within the said church that ye have care of, whereas your parishioners may most commodiously resort to the same and read it." commissioned in the reign of King Henry VIII, and the second was the Bishops' Bible The Bishops' Bible is an English translation of the Bible which was produced under the authority of the established Church of England in 1568. It was substantially revised in 1572, and the 1602 edition was prescribed as the base text for the King James Bible that was completed in 1611. of 1568. In January 1604, King James I convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans, a faction within the Church of England.

King James gave the translators instructions intended to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology (church doctrine) and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its belief in an ordained clergy. The translation was done by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England. In common with most other translations of the period, the New Testament was translated from Greek, the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew text, while the Apocrypha were translated from the Greek and Latin. In the Book of Common Prayer (1662), the text of the Authorized Version replaced the text of the Great Bible for Epistle and Gospel readings and as such was authorized by Act of Parliament. By the first half of the 18th century, the Authorized Version was effectively unchallenged as the English translation used in Anglican and Protestant churches. Over the course of the 18th century, the Authorized Version supplanted the Latin Vulgate as the standard version of scripture for English speaking scholars. Today, the most used edition of the King James Bible, and often identified as plainly the King James Version, especially in the United States, closely follows the standard text of 1769, edited by Benjamin Blayney at Oxford.

Now, what this leaves out is, when the scholars finished a section of the translation, King James had editorial rights. So today many scholars argue over what is translated and what is King James. E.G. The words for Mary, Christ's mother in the old scripts reads young woman not virgin. King James felt it sounded better if Christ was born of a virgin and that it was Immaculate Conception. This is why I was branded a blasphemer. I picked up more cigarette butts on campus, oh well I loved it. To graduate, I was required to take the course in summer school. Well the school brought in a theologian to teach the course and that's how I know about King James having editorial rights. In addition to this, on my dorm floor was a young man, Orthodox Jew, who was studying the Christian form of education vs. the Jewish. He and I, and many other young men, sat for hours discussing the war, religion and politics. I found that many people have grave and unanswered questions regarding the Christian beliefs. It is no longer acceptable to just have faith. And now with the age of communications upon us, the lies that use to become facts are now shot down before they can grow roots.

I come from a family where my Father's Sister was a missionary along with her husband. They traveled around the world spreading the word of Christianity. My Father was very proud of his sister for doing this. My Father was a devout Irish Catholic (save us all). My Mother is German Methodist. They say I have an evil intelligent sense of humor. Caught in between my parents and my aunts and uncles I had to study this stuff. I sat one day in a presentation of the work my aunt and uncle were doing in Hong Kong with the outcast and poor. After about the fifteenth time of my uncle calling them savages and heathens, I simply got up and walked out. When my Father caught up with me, and very angry I might add, he demanded that I return to the presentation. I informed my Father that any person who would down grade another individual who did not believe the same as they do, is the heathen. I believe that to be the closes my Father ever came to hitting me. I stood my ground. My Father returned and finished the presentation. Later I asked my Mother what she thought of the whole matter. She explained that it is a requirement of the belief structure the Christian religion to spread the word of GOD, no matter how it may affect or damage those learning it. How great or poor the teacher. Now, I always thought missionaries were required to have a much greater depth of understanding in the Christian religion than commoners. That be you and me.. I thought wrong. So I began a scientific type study and have discarded most of what I was told by both those in the pulpit and out amongst us, as absolute truth.

Now from the time of the King James Version of the bible, the church was usually the center of the community. Whatever the man in the pulpit said was gospel. This left open a great deal of room for abuse within the church, no matter which belief. That is why there is so much confusion about who, what, when and where. If flood, drought or pestilence came along, the man would say, that it is God's wrath for not doing this or that. When it was a bountiful harvest, it was God's gift. Now, of course, we know that the natural universe operates on its own laws. When the man could not explain why, he would say, God works in mysterious ways. Have you ever heard the saying, God helps those who help themselves?If the most devout Christian were to decide to leave his life in the hands of God, he would starve to death. Why, because God will not provide you with sustenance, a roof over your head, clothes on your back or a means to care for you. You have to do these things for yourself. Hence, God helps those who help themselves. For example; my Father had a heart attack. After, he came back from surgery, the family minister was there. He told us we should pray for my Fathers recovery. As he put his arm around my shoulder I withdrew, I told him, my Father does not need your God; he will live or die because he is strong or weak. I have my faith not in your God, but in my Father. I hear people all the time say, Oh thank God for my Father, Mother, Son, Daughter, Aunt, Uncle, Brother Sister or whomever, is alive after some of tragic event. You know what I do; I thank the Doctor, Lawyer, Fireman or Law Enforcement that participated. They are the reason your loved one is alive.

I hear Doctors say all the time; how he ever managed to recover I don't know. I do believe this to be a true fact, they didn't know. Then I hear, it must have been God's will, or it just wasn't their time. Meaning some higher supreme being intervened. I believe that individual just was not ready to die, so they caused, by force of will alone, their body to live. For example, you hear I don't understand why they died; they must have lost the will to live. But when someone lives it must have been God's will or God works in mysterious ways.

Finally, the stories that I found so fascinating as a child, Creation, Adam and Eve, the great flood myths, Sodom and Gomorra and final destruction of the world, all seem to have common threads found in many religious beliefs long before Christianity. Such as creation, and look through several of these stories about the creation of the world. The one I like best is from the Hopi Indian tribe. I could defiantly write a great science fiction story around this tale.

So let's look at each:


Creation A creation myth is a symbolic narrative of how the world began and how people first came to inhabit it. While in popular usage the term myth often refers to false or fanciful stories, cultures regard their creation myths as true to varying degrees. In the society in which it is told, a creation myth is usually regarded as conveying profound truths, metaphorically, symbolically and sometimes in a historical or literal sense. They are commonly, although not always, considered cosmological myths-that is, they describe the ordering of the cosmos from a state of chaos or amorphousness.


Included here is a list of the creation myths, (or creation story) cultural, traditional or religious myth which describes the earliest beginnings of the present world.


Adam & Eve, according to the creation myths of the Abrahamic religions, were the first man and woman. The story of Adam and Eve is central to the belief that God created human beings to live in a Paradise on earth, although they fell away from that state and formed the present world full of suffering and injustice. It provides the basis for the belief that humanity is in essence a single family, with everyone descended from a single pair of original ancestors. It also provides much of the scriptural basis for the doctrines of the Fall of man and Original Sin, important beliefs in Christianity, although not generally shared by Judaism or Islam. The only question I have is, if Adam and Eve were an Immaculate Conception, that is God looked down and said let there be Adam and he took a rib from Adam to create Eve, why then in ever rendition of them do they have belly buttons. Oh yea, that's right, God works in mysterious ways.

The Great Flood myth or deluge myth is a narrative in which a great flood, usually sent by a deity or deities, destroys civilization, often in an act of divine retribution. Parallels are often drawn between the flood waters of these myths and the primeval waters found in certain creation myths, as the flood waters are described as a measure for the cleansing of humanity, in preparation for rebirth. Most flood myths also contain a culture hero, who strives to ensure this rebirth. The flood myth motif is widespread among many cultures as seen in the Mesopotamian flood stories, the Hindu religious books from India called Puranas, Deucalion in Greek mythology, the Genesis flood narrative, and in the lore of the K'iche' and Maya peoples in Mesoamerica, the Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwa tribe of Native Americans in North America, the Muisca people, and Cañari Confederation, in South America.

Following is a list of the The flood myths or deluge myths are, taken collectively, stories surviving from human prehistory, of a great flood which has generally been taken as mythical. These legends depict global flooding, usually sent by a deity or deities to destroy civilization as an act of divine retribution. Flood stories are common across a wide range of cultures, extending back into prehistory. Below is a list of some flood stories from around the world and is in no way exhaustive.

Sodom and Gomorrah were cities mentioned in the Book of Genesis and throughout the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament and in deuterocanonical sources, as well as the Qur'an. Whether or not they ever existed is disputed by archaeologists.

According to the Torah, the kingdoms of Sodom and Gomorrah were allied with the cities of Admah, Zeboim and Bela. These five cities, also known as the "cities of the plain", were situated on the Jordan River plain in the southern region of the land of Canaan. The plain, which corresponds to the area just north of the modern-day Dead Sea, was compared to the garden of Eden[Gen.13:10] as being a land well-watered and green, suitable for grazing livestock.

Divine judgment by God was then passed upon Sodom and Gomorrah and two neighboring cities, which were completely consumed by fire and brimstone. Neighboring Zoar (Bela) was the only city to be spared. In Abrahamic religions, Sodom and Gomorrah have become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a proverbial manifestation of divine retribution. [Jude 1:7] Sodom and Gomorrah have been used as metaphors for vice and homosexuality viewed as a deviation. The story has therefore given rise to words in several languages, including the English word sodomy, used in sodomy laws to describe a sexual "crime against nature" consisting of anal or oral sex, either homosexual or heterosexual, or sexual activity between a person and a non-human animal (bestiality). Some Islamic societies incorporate punishments associated with Sodom and Gomorrah into sharia law.

So as you can see, these stories are from a wide region of time and religions.


My belief structure comes down to this: Our bodies are made up of energy. Physics describes energy through the Law of Conservation of energy. The Law of Conservation says energy cannot be destroyed, transformed, but not destroyed. Since our bodies are made of energy, when we die, where does our energy go? Now this, to me, is more likey than a supreme being sitting in some mystical place, looking down on us. That is at the moment of death, our energy transforms and rejoins the primary energy force that binds the universe together, thus, in a way, we will all rejoin our ancestors in the soup that forms our reality. And as the Klingons believe, the body is just that temporary vessel in which we travel through this reality. When we die, destory that vessel, for it no longer has meaning.

And please don't get me started on Christ, he was an extremely good man, whos deeds were exagerated for political purposes all over the world. And is still being used..
The teaching of Christ was about two hundred years after Buddha spoke the same words to his people.

Jesus and his deciples go to Jerusalem only to find the Temple full of money changers.

Jesus did not die on the cross for our sins, that is a relitively new addition to the christian religion, he died because he dared to challenge the standing authority and the profits it made from thier religion!!!


This is what I mean by all of this. I received in the mail, unsolicited, a flier from the Alliance Defending Freedom, another of the Far-Right-Wing organizations preying upon your religious beliefs to set thier own agenda. So you think I'm full of shit.. I'll let someone else explain it to you...

Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.

If you don't understand, I will try to explain before I show you the author. If you wish the common people, that be me and you, to rally around a cause, tell them the cause is under attack by whomever, that doesn't really matter. People will immediatly rally around that cause. Everyone loves the underdog, no matter what that cause may be. They may not even know what the cause is, they just know that it is under attack and it requires defending, because some well liked, or influential individual has said such. They will not even take the time to do the proper research to determine the actual foundation of the statements that it are under attack. That is happening right now in America with the Far-Right-Wingers. Your religion is under attack. How many times have you heard that lately. Your religion is not under ATTACK (period). All we ask, is do not try and force others to believe as you do. Your religion is YOURS to believe what you will. I will stand up next to you and defend your right to believe anyway you wish. I can only think of two religious groups that want to force people into thier religious beliefs, Extreme Islam and the Far-Right-Wing Extreme Christians. Ok let's see who defined this way of getting individuals to do thier bidding...

Here is a list of other organizations you need to be cautious about... Check out thier founders very closly and you will find, most are millionairs or better..

American Center for Law and Justice. Thier founders are Jay Sekulow and Pat Robertson. Two Far-Right-Wingers that would have you believe they are both religious and common people. If you really think so, ask them about thier financial statements. Man they will tell you that is none of your business. Why is a mega-church not out helping the poor as Jeus told the people to do??? Because they are worth over 500,000,000 dollars, that's why. Yes $500,000,000 of your hard earned money at work... Something that makes one go Hummmmmm... ALL TAX EXEMPT

The list goes on and on. Your religion is not under ATTACK (period). Here is a list from alternet.org 10 most dangerous religious right wing organizations check it out before you think they are your saviours.


Before you speak to me about your religion, first show it to me in how you treat people.
Before you tell me how much you love God, show me how much you love all his children.
Before you preach to me of your faith, teach me about it through your compassion for your neighbors.
I'm not interested in what you have to tell or sell as in how you choose to live and give

---Cory Booker, Mayor of Newark, New Jersy now Sentor from New Jersy

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